It is difficult to find 20 oz. Hot cups in recycle material. I thought I hit the jackpot with these white 20oz. Hot with lid. The cup itself is pretty terrific for not being styrofoam. Sometimes it could use a sleeve. Authentic tea brewers, this isn't for you the water temperature is too high and it will not work. But for coffee with froth attachment, it is perfect size.
My issue is with my they are so difficult to separate. I end up crushing cups, flipping the cup lip up, destroying several cups in the process. I even gave it another try since first order was shoved in mailbox pretty tight and I thought maybe that did it. Nope, 100 cups and ever sleeve is the same. It makes me crazy, I got so I wouldn't be using styrofoam but now I am just sending unused paper, crushed and unsafe cups to recycle plant. If they could figure out a way to not have them be so hard to separate I would give 5 stars. But after these I will need to find alternative. Too frustrating, wasting my money, and frustrating something that should be so simple is causing these issues…