now in the sense that these are diabetic socks they do what they say and the sizes are ample. I got two different packs, one for me, one for my mom but the clincher and the dead clincher. is that at the top of the sock instead of it releasing all of that space that it gives you in the footing? and the only thing she and I were concerned about is the ankle. that's why we went with this sock. I'm sorry, it's a cat whisker tight woven thing around the ankle and I'd have to get the scissors. I've done that a thousand times and for $17 for three pairs, not a freaking chance